X, you begged many questions and missed the point on many. overemphasizing the role of sports. Had a cousin who went to San Diego State and played on the football team. They have only gone to four bowl games, lost three of them and haven't been to a game in 10 years. They really haven't been good since Marshall Faulk was running, catching and returning the rock. SJS has gone to eight bowls, 5-3, last went a couple years ago, but hadnt gone to a bowl game in prior 16 years. lbsu hasnt been to the WS in 10 years. CSUF has been consistent for about 20 years. who has what programs, and who has what division teams do not make any persuasive points. just because a school has a phd program in certain fields of study does not make it any better, or poorer, then another school. i've known many people who have graduated from SD State and Long Beach and have come out thinking "What did you learn in school?" For the most part, those who made me form the same thought process at cpp didn't end up graduating; that is a real good thing.
i could mention programs and facilities cpp has which others school do not have (mentioned a couple already) and then claim, "our school must be better", but then some would say (deservedly so) i had an irrelevant conclusion or possibly even made a converse error. in any case telling others to check facts seems kind of silly if they are going to be used with badly constructed arguments.
most know of the shortcomings found within one's self, and it is probably not a stretch to believe they might know the shortcomings of the school(s) they attend(ed). if one has the blinders X speaks of, one may only see problems with what they see, or may only see the greatness in what they see. In either case it is not a true representation. with blinders removed, one may see a lot more of the surroundings, but still not be able to process everything in front of them and arrive to a true representation of what is seen. that is why we have mouths, so we can describe what we see and ask if our theories/thoughts are shared by others. even if another person's thoughts are not similar to one's own, the thoughts/ideas/theories should be listened to. respecting ideas goes into a grey area, easier to respect ideas when they are based on logic (or science), even if they tend not to be factual at times.
id rather not talk sports, dodgers down 0-2 |